West defended his support for Trump by explaining that he doesn’t care what people think about what he should say and do. “Just as a musician, African American, everyone around me tried to pick my candidate for me and then told me that I couldn’t say that I like Trump,” he said. The rapper explained that there’s this idea out there that “blacks can only be Democrats” and he added that as a result of his hospitalization in 2016 he “lost his confidence” and it took him a year and a half to say what he truly felt. “If I’m afraid to be me, then I’m not Ye, that’s what makes me Ye. I enjoy when people are mad at me about certain things.”

When asked why he thinks that “Donald Trump would care about black people,” West was silent and Kimmel had to go to commercial.

The rapper, whose latest album, ye, was released in early June, also discussed what’s next for him. At one point, Kimmel asked, “What is next for you?” While West paused, the host joked, “Space Force?” Kimmel continued, “You should design the uniforms for the Space Force. Would you do that if the president asked you?”

“I’m into designing,” West said.

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